disingenuous | wis'adel catchall

Oh, Wis'adel. They're not going to completely brush you off if more of us say the same thing. They know most of the achievements come from murder and how things go in trial by now.

We'll likely have to discuss how we want this to go. It is a little detrimental if they all know someone has to be framed. It's harder to game the system if everyone knows that's going to be something they need to aim for.

I'm still not the person they want to hear it from.

[she waves a hand, there; she's aware enough it wouldn't exactly be welcomed by several of them.]

I think the point we most need to get across is that they need to set all their other opinions and feelings aside if they want everyone to get out of here. Stop caring about only picking the "right" people. Stop trying to work around it and trying to find ways to help without helping. Good point on the framing, though... but I kinda wonder.

[humming thoughtfully.]

Hey. We can curse them, right? So, like, fuck 'em. WE do the framing. Anyone who gets something that could help saves it for the weekend, we make someone look suspicious, none of them know a thing so they can't just be voting for what they know is a fake setup.

At this point, want has very little to do with how to get their end goals.

[ but roxana isn't going to push or press it. it is what it is now.

they really killed scara, their best chance of a repeat killer before this week... ]

I don't know how many curses out there could make someone look guilty, but that would be a better workaround for what they don't know.

I don't know either, but maybe we could also ask someone like Kate to help out, so that not too many of 'em are aware...? Assuming she lives. Ask her to push a theory that it's being used to drop a hint if she sees someone with a particular kind of curse so they don't go "oh well, somebody has a bad sense of humor". That sort of thing.

There's gotta be some that might work, we'd just need to get enough of us to spill what we've got and brainstorm it. I know some of us are getting antsy as hell over here and it's something.

Edited 2025-07-06 06:40 (UTC)

We all do need to be on the same page if we don't want to spread too much awareness and make them shoot themselves in the foot. Some of them may want to discuss, if we receive some kind of notification on our phones again tomorrow.

You could bring it up if that happens.

That's what I'm thinking. Especially if we get more shit that's going to be difficult to get them to pull off...

[a little shake of her head.]

If we don't get anything that needs discussing then whatever, I can text everyone anyway.

[ she nods. ]

By all means. It wouldn't hurt to organize.

And it's something to do. I'm really gonna start climbing the walls if I don't do more than yell at people on the other side...

[she sighs, tail swishing.]

Unsurprisingly, not the biggest fan of waiting around!

Would you prefer to be on the other side now?

[ there's less waiting around there. ]

I'm gonna start wishing I could take matters into my own hands if they don't.

... but overall, I still prefer the company here.

Where most of the killers are, hm?

Where the people who get me a little better are, yeah.

...if I was over there I'd be looking over my damn shoulder every week.

There are some understanding and forgiving types there, though. The type that can't help but reach out.

Oh, those are everywhere here, apparently. Really just can't get away from 'em!

That means you have less to look over your shoulder about, if there are enough of them.

I don't really think so. We've seen how they are about the kind of answers they want-- they'll never take Rosamund as a volunteer, but if they were up against a wall and had a murderer alive who wasn't ever possessed...?

One they're aware of, I mean.

If you were still over there, would they be aware of you? You're only here because they found you.

Would you have confessed after, if you weren't caught?

Eh... depends, I guess. I can see it happening, maybe, under some circumstances...

That's such an indecisive answer from you. What happened to all your fire?

It really does depend-! Like, obviously I wouldn't want to just out myself, you know? So by default, no. But especially if I'd been over there and uncaught when I was remembering being the version of me in heaven...

Something like that might have gotten me to tell someone like Jonas, she hung out with him all the time.

But that's not outing yourself to everyone. Do you think Jonas would spread it to everyone after you told him?

Probably not everyone. I can't rule out that he'd resort to it if they were in a pinch at trial.

If that's how you see it, it can't be helped.

[ she's not actually someone who's part of you should try to trust more people train. ]

Hey, it's part of how I've always operated... and he's a pragmatic enough guy that I don't think he'd be too precious about it.

It's all just a thought exercise anyway. In the end, here we both are over here, right?

We are, but this thought experiment is because your energy is better suited to be over there.

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